Evolution and the Church


"....it is asserted that there is no contradiction between Christian faith and Darwinism. In order to consider this claim carefully we need to identify the implications for the Church of embracing evolutionary theory. There are obviously many who believe that evolution is the mechanism that God used to create the variety of life on this planet. However, for those who are serious about the supremacy of Scripture, it is essential that any apparent theological tensions that arise from this are rigorously reviewed. It would be premature to say the least to commit to a scientific position without having a clearly worked out theology that accords with it, particularly when so much of the scientific evidence does not necessitate a Darwinian explanation."


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#4 Can Natural Laws Create?NeilBJ 2010-01-22 13:58
Samuel Vaiphei writes:

"[Y]ou ought to throw away Big Bang or any scientific account of temporal cosmic origins."

If I understand you correctly, you accept the Big Bang as the work of God and then remove Him from the picture when it comes to the creation of life and ultimately man. You let the natural laws He created do the work.

But this is what is being argued. Can natural laws left to themselves do the creative work required of them? These laws must somehow create digital codes, information processing systems, and signal transduction systems with feedback control mechanisms of almost unfathomable complexity. Our common human experience tells us that such systems can only come from an intelligent cause.

Let us make sure that we can demonstrate that natural laws can do the creative work before we attempt to reconcile God and evolution. If they can do the creative work, can we then really call God our Creator?
#3 RE: Evolution and the ChurchNeilBJ 2010-01-20 18:07
Samuel Vaiphei,

I want to clarify what I think you think I am saying. Of course this is based on what I think you are saying!

I am defining the theory of evolution as evolutionary scientists define it. Their theory is a completely materialistic theory; they deny that God is or was involved in any way. To then say that God is in fact involved is to ascribe to the putative theory a property it does not have, and you are thereby positing a different theory.

This is not to say that what is called evolution is not a process effected by God. In fact, as one who is persuaded by the arguments for intelligent design, I believe that this is the case.

ID arguments also extend to the fine tuning arguments for the universe, so I do not throw out the Big Bang. It is the moment of ultimate Creation!
#2 RE: Evolution and the ChurchSamuel Vaiphei 2010-01-17 21:15
Wref to "I believe that those who say that evolution is God's mechanism are engaged in wishful thinking. They believe in God as creator, and at the same time they accept that evolution is true. Theirs is a vain attempt to reconcile what are in reality contradictory positions."

Well you think like that because you have a very poor doctrine of creation! Grow up. The Universe that God brought into being by his word is stratified and multi-layered. Don't confound Creation-a theological concept with a lower level description like Biology or Physics.

Else in the same breathe you ought to throw away Big Bang or any scientific account of temporal cosmic origins. Selective literalism is a poor mask.

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