Adam and Eve


"Evangelical Christians have generally resisted the demythologisation of the events of the gospels, whereby, for example, the resurrection of Jesus is interpreted as a mythical portrayal of the principle of new life. Indeed, they have argued strongly that it is the very historicity of the resurrection event that is so vital. However, when it comes to the biblical figures of Adam and Eve, there has been a far greater willingness to interpret them as mythical or symbolic. The simple aim of this chapter is to show, in sketch, that, far from being a peripheral matter for fussy literalists, it is biblically and theologically necessary for Christians to believe in Adam as i) a historical person who ii) fathered the entire human race."


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#4 RE: Adam and EveLuke Jordan 2011-03-26 07:37
James, you're right, maybe I overstated my question. It is just a possibility. I just wanted to point out that sometimes we do not read the details that are not explicitly written.

There are other plausible read-between-the-lines theories, such as the Gap Theory, which suggests a lot happened between the first two verses of the Bible (such as other creations!) It was proposed to try to understand where demons came from. Nowhere (that I know of) in the Bible does it explicitly explain these frightening entities. It does mention in Romans 8:38 that they are not angels.

Good verse (Acts 17:26) - it does say lineage from one man ...but it doesn't explicitly say who :) and goes on to say we're offspring from God. Is this part poetic? Maybe Adam was the first MODERN human.

I think your biology is correct, but I haven't studied genetics for awhile...

Anyways, good points, and I hope we all get more clear on whatever the truth is!
#3 ...finishing off my comment:James 2011-03-24 15:24
At that time, there was (as is argued) much greater genetic potential within each individual, so there was a much lower risk (if any) of genetic abnormalities. (As a biologist, you are no doubt more expert in this area than I am, so do put me right on this if I’m wrong.)
I don’t offer these as cast-iron evidence, but merely that there are fully reasonable explanations to the questions you’ve raised and thus it is perhaps not as clearcut as you have made out.

As an aside, the clearest verse for me in showing the Adam and Eve were the parents of the whole human race is Acts 17:26: “From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth.” (NIV) Perhaps Mike Reeves elaborates on these more in his chapter, I’ll have to get the book to find out!
#2 Just a thought on who Cain marriedJames 2011-03-24 15:23
Firstly, I'd point out that I am undecided on exactly where I stand on this issue and am still working to figure it all out.
However, I thought I would just address the questions you raised, which are often raised.
1. Who was Cain afraid of?
While Genesis 4 describes Cain's banishment it doesn't give a timeline to events. Thus (if the greater longevity of people at the time is accepted) it may have been many years, in which time Adam and Eve may well have had many other sons and daughters. It seems plausible that one of these may have sought to 'avenge' Abel by taking out Cain.
2. Who did he marry? Someone from Adam and Eve's family?
The frequent answer to this is that it could have been one of Adam and Eve's daughters, i.e. his sister. It's important not to impose the societal norms of later times onto this antediluvian period. One of the chief reasons why incest is (rightly!) prohibited today is the danger of genetic problems with any offspring.
#1 Graduate StudentLuke Jordan 2011-03-21 02:11
I am a Christian and a biologist. I believe both to be true, so I am a theistic evolutionist.

While questions remain, I believe there are more questions in the other camps (creationism/ID and atheism). I look forward to reading this book and Alexander's to challenge my position.

From this extract, I disagree with point ii, and I have an example from the Bible:

In Gen 4:13-18, Cain is banished from the Garden of Eden and wander the earth. He is afraid of people killing him, so God puts a mark on his head indicating that whoever kills him would receive extra punishment. Cain wanders to the land of Nod, marries someone, has a son, and builds a city.

But who was Cain afraid of? Who did he marry? Someone from Adam and Eve's family?

This leads me, from a Biblical text understanding, to believe there were other people around at the time besides Adam and Eve, who were not fathered by Adam.

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